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The 2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe and Roadster are most definitely not for the uncommitted. Neither offers an automatic transmission, and the extremely responsive handing exacts a tangible cost in ride comfort that can make their Porsche Boxster S and Cayman S counterparts feel almost cushy by comparison.

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Expanding the Z4&#8217;s already formidable dynamic envelope, the 2008 M versions complement their larger 3.2-liter 330-horsepower engines and sweet-shifting six-speed gearboxes with stiffer suspension, wider track dimensions, bigger wheels and tires, more direct power steering and a variable-locking differential from the M3. The result is remarkably quick acceleration and extremely crisp responses, all supervised by a fairly non-intrusive Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) setup. Huge cross-drilled and ventilated anti-lock disc brakes (ABS) deliver plenty of confident stopping power. The trade-off for this handling capability is ride comfort, which is notably impacted by rough or uneven road surfaces.

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Both the Z4 M Coupe and Z4 M Roadster boast numerous tweaks that impart a more visually aggressive character to the basic Z4 bodywork. Up front, a deeper front spoiler houses larger air intakes while bi-xenon headlamps replace the Z4&#8217;s halogen units and longitudinal &quot;precision lines&quot; add extra visual emphasis to the hood. The distinctive rear treatment includes LED Adaptive Brake Lights that respond to the intensity of the stopping effort and a revised lower diffuser punctuated with chrome-tipped quad exhaust outlets. The Z4 M models also benefit from upsized wheel and tire fitments, with Z-rated 225/45R tires up front and 255/40R in the rear on unique 18-inch alloy wheels.

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Precise Steering Feel Borrowed from the M3, the beautifully communicative and well-weighted rack-and-pinion power steering gear in the M Coupe and Roadster relies on straight hydraulic boost in place of the more technically complex but far less driver-connected assist systems that BMW uses in most of its other offerings. 
3.2-Liter M-Spec Engine BMW has a worldwide reputation for its superb in-line six-cylinder engines, and this M-massaged 3.2-liter stands as one its finest efforts. Redlined at a lofty 8,000 rpm, it makes an exhilarating 330 horsepower &#8212; 75 more than the Z4 3.0i&#8217;s 3.0-liter six &#8212; and endows both the M Coupe and M Roadster with outstanding quickness and responsiveness.

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Compact but well finished, the 2008 BMW Z4 M cabins make a most inviting driving environment. Exceptionally supportive sport buckets &#8212; swathed in the same premium Nappa leather that wraps the steering wheel, shift knob and handbrake grip &#8212; legible analog gauges and well-positioned pedals, function levers and switchgear are complemented by distinctive &quot;M&quot; logos on the doorsills, headrests and steering-wheel center pad. Brushed-aluminum dash and console accents are set off by a &quot;pearl gloss galvanic&quot; finish on the door pulls and handles, climate controls and instrument surrounds, but buyers can opt for no-cost Carbon Leather in place of the standard aluminum trim, or move up to optional polished Madeira Wood.

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Since the late 1970s BMW&#8217;s renowned Motorsport GmbH division has been turning out ultra-performance &quot;M&quot; cars. While the best-known of these remains the M3 and M5 Sedans, the U.S-built Z4 roadster has spawned a pair of equally scintillating offspring: The M Coupe and M Roadster. With notable upgrades to their powertrains, performance, appearance and attitude, these two-seaters are fully capable of putting their performance levels and images up to such competitors as the Porsche Boxster S and Cayman S, Chevrolet Corvette, Honda S2000, Lotus Elise and Exige, Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG and Nissan 350Z in its Grand Touring iteration.

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Individual extras on both the M Coupe and M Roadster include metallic paint, eight-way power seats with a three-position driver-side memory, heated seats, iPod Seamless Integrated System, SIRIUS Satellite Radio, extended Nappa leather (covering the dash, console sides, door panels, sun visors and windshield pillars) and BMW Assist with Bluetooth hands-free phone technology. The Premium Package includes eight-way power seats, cruise control, auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors, a 10-speaker Carver/THX Certified sound system, BMW Assist with Bluetooth and interior stow nets. The Z4 M Roadster also offers a bolt-on hardtop and hardtop prep kit.

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The 2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe&#8217;s Manufacturer&#8217;s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starts around $52,000, while the Z4 M Roadster is near $54,000. Both versions are currently selling for their full MSRP, but Fair Purchase Prices, that represent prices consumers are actually paying at any given moment, can vary substantially, so click on the Fair Purchase Prices to compare. Like all BMW M cars, resale prices on both are quite good. While their retained-value percentages trail the Chevrolet Corvette, they are on par with the Nissan 350Z, Porsche Boxster and Cayman S and the Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG.

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Both the Coupe and Roadster versions of this high-styled high-performance machine have the potential to fulfill the driving demands of even the hard-core enthusiast &#8212; and to do to do so at a remarkably competitive pricepoint.

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Standard equipment on the M models includes a full array of power assists, Nappa leather upholstery, remote keyless entry, on-board computer, automatic climate control, a 10-speaker AM/FM/CD/MP3 sound system, ultra-supportive six-way bucket seats, a three-spoke multifunction sport steering wheel on a tilt and telescoping column, comprehensive Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), a special M-spec variable-locking differential, 18-inch staggered-width wheel and tire packages and the weight-saving &quot;M&quot; Mobility System in place of a spare tire. The Roadster adds a fully-lined one-touch power top and fixed rollover hoops, while both cars have front, front-side and knee-protection airbags.

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The 2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe and M Roadster share the same 3.2-liter DOHC in-line six used in the 2006 M3. Fitted with BMW&#8217;s Double-VANOS variable valve timing on both intake and exhaust valves, it further benefits from a host of M upgrades, including a compression ratio of 11.5:1, individual throttles on each cylinder, high-performance lubrication and cooling systems and a freer-flowing exhaust, all of which helps it make 330 horsepower and 262 pound-feet of torque. Backed by a quick-shifting, six-speed manual gearbox, it will send either of these stormers to 60 miles per hour in a claimed 4.9 seconds. There&#8217;s even a special console-mounted &quot;Sport&quot; button that quickens throttle response. 
3.2-liter in-line 6 330 horsepower @ 7900 rpm 262 lb.-ft. of torque @ 4900 rpm EPA city/highway fuel economy: 15/22

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There&#8217;s literally a price to pay for the RX 400h&#8217;s extra measure of environmental friendliness and some buyers may rightly decide that the additional benefits will never fully offset that extra dollar outlay.

The RX 400h is capable of running on its gasoline engine, electric motors or a combination of the two, depending upon driving demands. Turn the key and the dash springs to life, but the engine sits silently in &#8220;ready&#8221; mode &#8212; as it does when you come to a stop in traffic. A simple press on the accelerator instantly &#8212; and seamlessly &#8212; activates one of its operating programs. The suspension tuning is slightly tauter than an RX 350, but it remains biased towards a smooth, quiet ride and straight-line cruising comfort. There&#8217;s more body roll through corners than you&#8217;ll find with either of the BMW SUVs, but little sense of tippiness. Close-quarters maneuverability also is quite good and the RS 400h&#8217;s standard traction and stability controls effectively deal with the available grip of its all-season tires. However, the electronic boost of its power steering and the regenerative circuitry used on the anti-lock disc brakes impart a somewhat artificial feel to both systems.

Sharing the same basic styling cues and passenger-friendly proportions with the RX 350, the hybrid RX 400h matches rounded contours with well-defined character lines. Its smartly raked windshield and large glass area help improve driver sightlines, while both front and rear doors are large enough to ensure easy access to all seats. Crystalline head- and tail-lamp covers, subtle chrome accenting on the grille and door handles and S-rated 225/65 all-season tires on handsome alloy wheels emphasize its premium personality. Visual differentiations from the RX 350 include a unique grille insert, larger front air inlet and round instead of rectangular fog lamps.

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Offering an endearing mix of enhanced performance and improved fuel economy compared to its conventional RX 350 counterpart, the RX 400h&#8217;s gasoline-electric powertrain and CVT transmission make a formidable match around town or in freeway cruise mode for anyone willing to ante up the extra cash.
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Producing 210 watts of virtually distortion-free power from 11 speakers, this audiophile sound system turns the RX 400h into a concert hall on wheels and is available with or without the voice-activated navigation system and/or a rear-seat DVD entertainment package.

Except for a &#8220;power meter&#8221; in place of the tachometer and a mesmerizing gas/electric energy flow display, the RX 400h shares virtually all of its primary features and appointments with the RX 350, including cloth upholstery with brushed aluminum and aluminum-look accents and a major assortment of comfort and convenience touches. This sophisticated five-passenger hauler pairs supportive 10-way power front seats with a 40/20/40 rear bench that splits, folds, slides, reclines and will comfortably handle two full-size adults or a trio of kids. Accessed by a power rear liftgate, the RX 400h&#8217;s cargo bay can hold 38.3 cubic feet of your carry-on items with the rear seat up and 84.7 cubic feet with the seatbacks flipped forward and down.

Introduced for 2006, &#8220;the world&#8217;s first luxury hybrid SUV&#8221; adds its distinctive brand of environmentally-friendly character to the Lexus model line. A car-based, mid-size crossover, the gasoline-electric RX 400h shares much with its RX 350 kin (reviewed separately). However, in place of a 3.5-liter gasoline V6, the RX 400h uses a 3.3-liter engine teamed with electric motors, a pairing that makes it more fuel-efficient, and in some cases, even quicker. Numerous midsize SUVs and crossovers, including the Acura MDX, BMW X3 and X5, Infiniti FX35 and FX45 and Mercedes-Benz ML350, are legitimate alternatives, but the RX 400h&#8217;s closest &#8220;green&#8221; competitor remains its own less-pricey corporate sibling, the Toyota Highlander Hybrid.

The RX 400h&#8217;s extras list commences with a Premium Package that includes leather upholstery, power moonroof, power tilt and telescoping steering column and memory for driver&#8217;s seat, mirrors and steering wheel. The Premium Plus Package adds bi-xenon Adaptive Front Lighting (AFS) to that mix. A Mark Levinson premium audio system is available with or without a voice-activated navigation system that includes Bluetooth connectivity and a rear backup camera. Also available are a rear-seat DVD entertainment system with a 7.0-inch screen, distance-maintaining Dynamic Laser Cruise Control and a towing package.

The RX 400h&#8217;s Manufacturer&#8217;s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) starts at just under $42,000 for a front-drive model and closer to $43,500 for an all-wheel drive version. While those figures are roughly $4,000 more than a comparable RX 350, they&#8217;re still very competitive with many of the RX 400h&#8217;s non-hybrid alternatives and remain in the &#8220;sweet spot&#8221; for the premium mid-size crossover segment. Projected residual value is solid &#8212; slightly above a Mercedes-Benz ML350 but below the Acura MDX, BMW X3 and X5 and Infiniti FX35 and FX45. An all-wheel-drive RX 400h will do better than the front-drive model over time, but neither matches an RX 350, which also tops all of the aforementioned rivals except the Acura.

Better fuel economy, better performance and an even tidier carbon footprint than an RX 350 help make the RX 400h a popular pick with individuals who demand practical justifications for raising their social consciousness.

Seven new exterior colors, chrome door handles, a revised grille finish, color-keyed decklid spoiler and some minor trim accents are the sole changes for the 2008 RX 400h.

Beyond its hybrid drivetrain, the RX 400h has a mega-roster of power assists, headed by 10-way power front seats and a power rear liftgate. Its dual-zone climate control can remain operational even when the gasoline engine is not running, and the audio system is an impressive eight-speaker AM/FM/CD unit with six-disc changer. Other highlights include cruise control, a driver information system, numerous modest storage cubbies plus a large locking glovebox, dual 12-volt powerpoints and an anti-theft system. Topping the safety equipment is a Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) system that links the traction and stability control and antilock disc brakes, plus front, front-side and side-curtain airbags and a driver&#8217;s knee airbag.

The RX 400h offers two powertrain alternatives, both sharing a 208-horsepower 3.3-liter V6 engine and continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT). Front-drive models add a pair of electric motor/generator units; one starts the engine and keeps accessories operational when it&#8217;s off while the other adds motive force when the V6 is on duty. Energizing both is a 288-volt/45-kilowatt battery located under the rear seat that employs regenerative circuitry to permit on-the-fly recharging. The all-wheel-drive RX 400h also has a third electric motor connected to the rear wheels. These motors deliver extra low- and mid-range boost while helping both RX 400h variants hit 60 miles per hour in about 7.5 seconds, earn better EPA fuel economy numbers than an RX 350 and pull a 3500-pound trailer when fitted with the tow package.
3.3-liter V6-based Gas-Electric Hybrid 
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EPA city/highway fuel economy: 27/24 (FWD), 26/24 (AWD)

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